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| Probably more than any one thing at this school, is the fact how many people here cut other Godly people down continually, both from the highest staff down to first students entering. I've been all over in the world, but this place by FAR had the WORST gossip anywhere (when I attended), and some of it was extremely damaging to PROFESSORS and to STUDENTS, even myself. STAY OUT OF THIS PLACE UNLESS YOU ARE MARRIED AND COMMUTE FOR CLASS ONLY. IT IS DESTRUCTIVE TO THE NAME OF CHRIST, and full of gossip and slander, which is no different than armed robbery or murder in God's eyes. I cannot remember more than a handful of students ever taking notice of me as a Christian here who did God's work, and 10 times that number spread gossip and destruction about me and indeed about anyone they felt they should. This school WILL NOT remain long because God will remove it from its place unless this stops (and it has already built quite a long history of this for decades)...only his patience witholds Him from removing it...I advise no one to move against the school directly or at all other than to warn students like I am now--because SADLY you won't have to; God eventually will anger over years about this. Many students who glorify this school are well aware of how bad the gossip is and know exactly what I am saying, but they ignore it and blame anything else in society. |
|Mar 30 2004|| 4th Year Male --
Class 2001 |
| I'd have to add it is a Bible college with a ministry purpose intended, but if you ever need a job other than ministry, this is a horrid place to have gone.|
I certainly didn't get any career development from this place and that came back to haunt me a lot when I looked for a job outside of ministry--if you spend 4 years here and graduate from here, and DON'T go into ministry immediately then 1) the school has limited your work so you have to find a new job 2) you have no training or skills for the work world and must go get it on your own and 3) you have no training even on how the work would GETS a job. I never had a career development class at MBI, not even in ministry sense, but only senior intership. So in reality they don't tell you how to develop a ministry career even, and certainly not for any other job. None of the stuff you learn here is relevant at all to the work world other than if you reliably attend work and class, other than cultural exposure or say music, education, radio or some emphasis. Some of this is good, some of it is bad, especially if you want to do more than MINISTRY in your life. Ironically a lot of Moody grads do not go into ministry right after MBI. So what happens to those that do not? Good question, especially if they don't have other training besides MBI.
Doubtless people will say "It's a BIBLE college, what did you think it was for?" My answer is yes it is, but if you attend here you will not be prepared for the real work world with relevant skills other than a few that cross over, or even how to get a real world job other than by reference from people directly. You'll think you are mighty superior to others theologically (if your naive) but you won't be able to land a job easily unless someone refers you from church, which is seldom the case and is getting less and less that way.
|Mar 25 2004|| Alumnus Male --
Class 2000 |
| I don't feel anyone should go to Moody Bible Institute (MBI). I will say the faculty is the strength of this school (and some of the faculty the ONLY good thing about this school) and when I was there it leaned dispensational in theology and noncharismatic, but the school so warps its faculty and students under the name of Christian education, it is not even funny, and worse sends them out to run churches and ministries. The surrounding area hates Moody, and it isn't JUST because they are naive about MBI and all nonChristians or unreligious, it's because MBI is NOT INVOLVED IN ANY POSITIVE RESPECT IN CHICAGO, but bent on thrusting its doctrine up people (no wonder it shocked people when the mayor dropped by one year). THIS LACK OF TRUE INVOLVEMENT IN CITY MINISTRIES HAS RIGHTFULLY TURNED OFF MOST OF THE CITY TO MBI--I can't even stand to listen to the radio which is mostly pretaped programming like most radio stations. I did learn how to find books on ministry from MBI and how to HELP MYSELF a bit better, but ministries required were poorly designed and every person for themselves. But the ungodly costs you pay just to get basics of theological world down are phenominal--a good room and board fee, no contact with society, no movies, certainly no going out, and socialization only in church settings is allowed or a few coffeeshops. I can't even begin to list the negative and UNBIBLICAL THINGS about this school (and I don't want to here I'd be writing all week), it's worse that spending every nite out in a nite club getting wasted--they treat you like you are in 6th grade--and I just don't buy donor support or safety of students as valid excuses for these naive policies. The chapels are horrible, not because they don't bring in good speakers, but because that is all they have done and they have to require chapel. HELLO? REQUIRE CHAPEL AT A BIBLE COLLEGE? (alarm bell goes off) RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WANT TO BE *FORCED* I said *FORCED* to go to church??? ANY TAKERS? I didn't think so...yet forcing chapels is exactly what moody has to do with its students--because Moody doesn't live by the policy that students will want to come if the chapels are real--but that your attendance is manadory no matter how lamely you connect with those around you.|
I cannot underestimate how I think this school has damaged the ministry in this country and possibly worldwide. Right now, MBI is probably nothing like the school DL Moody founded. Its a disgrace, yet because society is so dead spiritually the school can get by to many Christians as "the greatest thing in the world." It has a fair following of Chicago believing churches--and larger following usa-wide because usa-wide see the good books of Moody publishing and not what is going on in Chicago. (by the way, Chicago churches are in a huge mess right now--pastors pointing fingers at everything and anyone possible yet changing nothing themselves) MBI also has closet gays and lesbians in the school, many who graduate (I'm not one of them). Others I seriously think have gone gay just from the stress of going to MBI. I mention no names but I have heard plenty of sad things.
You won't get a social life at this school (don't even think about dating--they say its better last few years but I'd have to see it myself to believe that after how little contact anyone had with the opposite sex here when I was at achool) so enter it only if you want to sit in a dorm and study for 4 years straight and think that is all ministry is about. Furthermore, the fact that few students stay in Chicago to minister after their MBI experience shows you the real involvment MBI has in the community. Yeah its a missions school and people head out, but the number of people who stay in a ministry in Chicago after graduating MBI has to be incredibly small.
Thats a fact, bro or sis. Most MBI students BOLT the city as fast as possible to get out of MBI and never stay here to fight the cities problems that MBI tells you are massive while you are in school. HELLO? Can anyone put 2 and 2 together?
My words are a solid WARNING to anyone who would attend this place--going there gave me years of issues I had to work out afterwards as a Christian--that is no joke. Any I know several other people as well who tell me the exact same thing.
This school does a great job of deceiving young minds into thinking they are the best school on earth for ministry. Not only that, it continually brings in big speakers and christian musicians to back its prestige--because hey they aren't changing a thing in the city.
Right now, they are having Founder's Week or will soon--a week in which all the students are required to listen to the big name preachers come in for conferences. Wanna know something? I don't remember a single speech from any of these big namers in all my 4 of them I attended--other than the president pleading to be generous in your giving. Very few people from outside attend this event - maybe few hundred if that. MBI literally moves all its student body there in order to fill the church. Um wouldn't someone from the city go if this was a big deal? Guess not--some people do go but sure seems like most the church is MBI students.
|Feb 10 2004|| 4th Year Male --
Class 2000 |