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Oh my god. notNot so bright
Oh my god. not for everyone. i am leaving. i appreciate some faculty and some students. others are selfabsorbed, just as some of the students. like seriously?
1st Year Female -- Class 1921
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In looking at the other reviews of St.
In looking at the other reviews of St. John's, I'm curious if they attended the same St. John's I did. I was a student in the Graduate Institute.

The first class was very telling. The tutor simply walked in, called the role, and asked a question. He neither passed out a syllabus, nor articulated any goals and objectives for the course. Nor did he articulate what he expected from the students during the semester. Even hints for how to succeed in the course would have been appreciated.

How does all of this ambiguity aid the learning process?
This was true for all of the segments I took at St. John's. The tutors either could not or would not articulate any expectations to the students, but were quick to criticize at the end of the semester when their internal expectations were not met. Success was always a moving target. At the end of the semester, I was shocked when students were not given anonymous course evaluations to fill out. My undergraduate college took course evaluations very seriously. Why doesn't St. John's want anonymous, candid feedback from students? Does the administration not care what students think?

As for the classes themselves, the tutors did not encourage students to synthesize or take a larger view of the great books. We went from book-to-book with no analysis in between or at the end of the semester. Some tutors did a good job at furthering and guiding class discussions, but most were unimpressive. Most of the time, I wasn't sure why the tutor was even in the room.

Finally, I would encourage prospective undergraduate or graduate students to ask the right questions. Taking the guided tour of the library and King William Room won't help you make a good decision about whether to attend St. John's. Visit a class, but meet with the tutor before-hand. Find out HOW this person runs a class. Ask for a syllabus. Get details.

Finally, I don't think St. John's is worth the time or money. I'd like to suggest a few cheaper alternatives I found on the internet:

Cal State Dominguez Hills
American Public University
Harrison Middleton University
Thanks,A graduate of St. John's College

Alumnus Male -- Class 2000
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St. John's is a very good, very differentNot so brightOther
St. John's is a very good, very different kind of school. It appeals to students who think for themselves, and provides excellent financial aid to those who truly want to attend, so while racially bland, the school hosts a variety of backgrounds and stories. You have to want it. If you don't want it, you'll hate it. So don't make this a safety school, or last-minute crap shoot for a school you know you'll get into, because I guarantee you will hate it if this isn't what you want.

The reason I love St. John's above all is because it is honest. Other schools have turned the "college experience" into a selling point, and have forgotten what it means to be a place of learning. We have no big sports teams, no multimillion dollar alumni events, and no ways for students to work around the system. At don rags, our form of evaluation, tutors will never hold back punches. You will know more about yourself that you ever wanted to, which is precisely why you have to really want to come and stay here.

Don't be scared, though. Everybody is very friendly. You won't be drowning in work, if you can learn how to manage it. The biggest struggles you'll have here are internal ones - just the kind the school encourages.

1st Year Male -- Class 2018
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