Pace University - New York
Pace University - New York - Comments and Student Experiences|
Most of the kids here walk around with a stick up their ass, the majority of which seem to be because they either have a good sense of fashion, or they are a performing arts major. Being in New York, Pace clearly has made quite a name for itself in the theatrical as well as business world, but sometimes I struggle to understand why. I have seen a few productions here, and most of which have yet to impress anyone who has seen them. And I know quite a few students in the Lubin School of Business, and there is nothing exceptional about their capabilities.
I can't speak for the entire school, but from my personal experience and after talking with friends, the academics here do not seem to be worth the amount of money we are all spending on this school. Often it feels like we will take away from the University what we are willing to put in, and nothing more. There is a missing drive and rigor from both the faculty and students, both of which just scrape by to say they are doing so. I have had professors that are the heads of their department, and their lack of care as well as motivation is outstanding. The workload is definitely manageable, and for the small percent that attend 90% of their classes it is even easier.
There is a clear reason why this school has such a high transfer-out rate. Sometimes it can be difficult to describe, but I think at the end of the day it is because of students who are looking to get more out of an education than they have been given. Just after one semester I can list many students who will never be returning back to the University. Those who stay usually seem to have given up on the transfer process and see it as too much of a hassle.
The one dining hall is not very good and most definitely overpriced. The library, like most of the other facilities on campus, is very beaten down, and is rarely quiet enough to focus and get work done. Kids generally yell, take phone calls, and do whatever they please here because once again, the overwhelming feeling of disregarding responsibilities is clear. One of my favorite quotes that I have seen from the Pace library was scratched into a desk and it read, "Everyone at Pace is just offended because they aren't lucky enough to be spending $80k a year at NYU". While humorous, this statement still has a lot of truth to it. Most of us at this school were waitlisted at schools like NYU and were made to feel better by the "amazing" scholarship we are receiving to attend Pace. I have a sibling at NYU and at least with that school my parents are able to justify their spending because of the education that is being received. If you are looking to easily get by in college and pay way too much not only on your education, but also on your life in New York, then you should definitely consider Pace. Some kids love it, but they are often the minority here. It is no coincidence whenever you hear about someone who went to Pace but they happened to transfer out because they hated it. The Admissions Office is very good at convincing potential students that people here are happy with their education and their lifestyle here. If you pay attention to comments and websites like these, you will learn very quickly the truth about this school. Don't let yourself fall victim to this school.
First off, I would like to say that a lot of people agree with me when I say the first semester/year is great, and it gets worse every semester afterward. This school has a HUGE transfer out rate. Half of the people I met my first year were gone after that. It's hard to keep friends here. People either transfer out, or move out of the dorms, or other reasons.
Another thing, I may be an outlier because I am a typical white guy who likes sports and does typical "dude" things, but if you consider yourself a typical "suburb" kid or grew up in the suburbs, this school isn't for you. There are not a lot of "normal" people at this school. Lets be honest, there's a lot of gays, metrosexual men, foreign students, and high maintenance girls. This school is very cliquey. If you do not belong to one of those groups or "clique's" you're going to have a harder time finding people to be friends with. Not saying anything is wrong with any of those mentioned above, thats just the vast majority of the student body. So much for a "University" this school is far from having a diverse crowd. I would say the overall friendliness of the school from 1-10 from 1 being lowest and 10 being highest is probably around a 4-5. Some students are willing to talk, a lot keep to themselves, there are a good amount who are snobby.
When it comes to outside of the campus activities, I mean cmon its NYC so yes there are going to be a lot of things to do, BUT, you must have money to do them. The city is REALLY expensive. If you're "ballin on a budget" you're not going to have a lot of fun because you will be super limited. If you have a lot of money, then you will have the time of your life. The city is what you make of it.
When it comes to the actual campus, i'm not gonna lie this place is a shit hole. It's a really ugly school, its outdated, the cafeteria is basically a closet, its just not a nice looking campus. The dorms are decent though. Beekman is a brand new building and the John street is relatively new. The area around the main campus and dorms is really nice and super safe. One thing I didn't like about dorming is the lack of opportunities to meet students. There aren't alot of common areas where students can go and hang out and socialize. Besides a gym and a few TV rooms thats about it. Dorms are REALLY small, but have their own bathrooms. Proximity of the dorms to the main campus is really close.
When it comes to the professors at this school, it's kind of hard to comment. I've only been here for two years and took mostly business classes so overall I would say the professors i've had were average to a little higher than average. You will have professors who don't speak english, but that's the majority of colleges. A good amount of professors here also teach at other colleges in the city like Baruch, NYU, and other CUNY schools, so whatever courses you're taking here would probably be equivalent to those other schools.
Overall, the best advice I would give to someone who is considering this school is definitely check it out first. If you are looking for that "college experience' literally dodge this college at all costs. You COULD however, try this campus, and switch to the West Chester campus. They're more of a "traditional college". They're both Pace and the transition is easy as just picking where you want your classes, and choosing your dorming. It's that simple. If you fit the mold of one of the clique's here, you'll love it, if not, its going to be tough for you. The campus is horrible but the surround area definitely makes up for it.
Most of the male students are gay, so if you are a female interested in dating, you will have no luck here. Pace offers all students here a $19,000 scholarship but even with that, the whole tuition with dorming is about $40k, which is still expensive. Also, all the money paying for Pace is not worth it, especially since it is #188 in the national rankings and there are better/cheaper schools out there that are worth the money. Because of the expenses and Pace having no sense of community with it being a commuter school, most students want to transfer out. My state college is much cheaper and affordable, worth a much higher ranking, and gives the college experience/a sense of community. Although I enjoyed my time at Pace, I am much happier with my new college.