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I am a Chief Petty Officer in the Navy. I was attending a local community college that has a Navy partnership. When I started taking classes I took some in the classroom and a few online. When it came time for college algebra I took it online being out of high school for 13 years I was not able to re-teach myself so I dropped the online class and decided to take it in a class room. I was told on the first day of class that if I missed more then two classes I would automatically fail the class. I explained to the professor that I was enrolled under the Navy partnership and I would miss a class from time to time because I had to get underway. He didn't care. Some partnership.
After I dropped his class I did some research on the Navy's college website and discovered SUNY Empire State. The following semester I enrolled. At the community college I was only halfway to my associate?s degree. After ESC reviewed my college transcripts and my life time learning credits from the Navy I was only 48 credits from my Bachelors Degree. I was very skeptical of this but I bit anyway, and I am very glad that I did. ESC is not only a SUNY school it is regionally accredited and their classes will transfer to and other regionally accredited college or university. I finished my Gen Ed classes and continued taking the business management classes that I put together in my degree plan. The classes I have taken here at ESC have been more challenging then I expected. I have learned more at ESC then I did sitting in classed at the community college. At the community college I had professors that lectured the class and if you paid close attention and took notes there was no way you could fail. Being enrolled in the CDL I do not have scheduled class times, no professors lecturing and no study partners to help me out. ESC takes discipline and a self motivated individual if you want to get through it. Taking two classes a semester you can expect to write about 100-200 pages of assigned course work. If you are looking to breeze by this is not the school for you.
Almost all my professors have been very understandable about my job and understand that the ship often does not have internet access, or has very low bandwidth while at sea. As long as I give them a time line before I go out to sea they all have worked with my schedule, except one professor who was retired Navy...Go figure. Over all I have enjoyed my experience at ESC. If I was not looking for diversity in my education I would consider continuing on at ESC for my Masters Degree. However I am attending Penn State World Campus, which has the same accreditation as ESC, and accreditation is very important. I already have my ESC associate's degee hanging on the wall, and in 5 weeks My Bachelors degree will be right next to it. | Campus Maintenance: A+, Surrounding City: F |  | | |
| | Mar 24 2010 | 2nd Year Male --
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| Quite Bright |
I am completing a Bachelor of Arts in Cultural Studies. I am currently taking my final two classes. I have taken all of my classes online so I can't speak for the on-ground or hybrid options.
The Good- The fact that this is an online program has afforded me the opportunity to finish a degree that I would not have had the time to complete otherwise. The cost is VERY affordable, even cheap in comparison to other online schools. It is a SUNY school and as a result garners a certain level of respect from other institutions.
The Bad- The school claims that instructors will reply to emails within a 24-48 hour time frame. I have not had even ONE professor who did this. This is an online program, therefore students do not have the opportunity to go to a professor's office to ask questions, nor can you stay after class for clarification or details about an assignment. Thus it is very logical to assume that teachers in an online program would comprehend the great importance of being available to students in other ways. NO SUCH LUCK! Teachers sometimes take over a week to respond. I have had more than one teacher that I couldn't get in contact with for over a month. There is a LOT of work. That worked for me because I actually like learning, researching and writing. I came to ESC with 96 credits and wanted to finish as quickly as possible. I knew going in that I would be taking numerous classes at a time to finish and was willing to go without sleep for days at a time to meet my goal. However, all students are not in as much of a rush as I am. My sister also attended ESC for a time and the work load crushed her. Students should be informed when they register that taking more than two classes at a time will require a minimum of 40 hours per week for the ridiculous amount of time it takes to complete the reading and writing assignments. The Ugly- The grading policies are severely subjective (meaning if you disagree with your professor or call them on their b.s. your A+ will magically become a B- despite the grades that your work received). Of course there is a grievance/ appeal procedure but it takes FOREVER and involves more hoops than a Barnum and Bailey show. The bureaucracy at ESC is unending. There is red tape after red tape, arbitrary policy after arbitrary policy and an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. My own mentor was mildly helpful, but I have heard absolute horror stories from others. Overall- If you are looking for an affordable, flexible program from a moderately respected school ESC is a viable option. It is not at all what I would call a pleasant experience. The administration is mediocre at best, 99% of my professors have been horrendous, the grading policies are severely subjective and the workload is tremendously time consuming. But after all is said and done, if you survive it, you will get your degree. | Education Quality: A, Faculty Accessibility: F |  | | |
| | Jan 05 2010 | 1st Year Female --
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| Bright | A great opportunity for returning students mid 20's and up. If you can motivate yourself on your own time you will be fine. The course work is college level. Not too overly tough, but not a cakewalk either. The same level Bachelors work you would find elsewhere. The SUNY system is well respected and for the price I am going to finish with the same degree that those down the street at SUNY Albany, or out at SUNY Buffalo paid more for. | Education Quality: A+, Social Life: C |  | | |
| | Feb 20 2009 | 1st Year Male --
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| Quite Bright | I needed about 30 credits to complete my Bachelors degree and enrolled at the Manhattan campus -- very glad I did. The study groups (classes) are great because most of the students are over 25 years old, so the discussions are intelligent and related to the real world since a majority of the student body at the Manhattan campus are employed full time. The college caters to adult students, even twenty-something adults who have already begun a career such as myself, but need to solidify future opportunities by obtaining a bachelors at a reasonable tuition. Also, each student at Empire is assigned a mentor, my advise is to have a meeting prior to designing your degree program to ensure you will be able to work with your mentor and be on the same page with your educational goals. Anyhow, Empire is a great choice for anyone over 25 pursuing a college education because it is part of SUNY and has great professors such as Steve Tischler and Justin Giordino. | Useful Schoolwork: A, Campus Aesthetics: C |  | | |
| | Feb 18 2009 | 1st Year Female --
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