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I spent 2 years at Spartan. Not only did I see things from a student perspective, but I spent 18 months of that time as the tutor for the A&P program so I also got to see things a bit more from the other side.
First of all, I can only speak to the maintenance side of Spartan, as I'm not familiar with the flight school campus. However, my initial thought upon reading the comments left by aspiring "pilots" is that if you cannot communicate coherently and maturely, perhaps you don't need to be in the left seat of a multi-million dollar aircraft. While Spartan will teach you to fly, the school cannot be expected to make up for things you should have learned long ago--such as promptness, integrity, and work ethic, not to mention a certain sense of adult maturity. Our field is one where people's lives depend on our skill, our ability to communicate, and our willingness to do whatever it takes to do the job right. Many Spartan students have no concept of that at all. It's no surprise they find Spartan not to their liking. It's a school for people who are serious about aviation. As one of my instructors used to say, "You have to love it, or you'll never be good at it." For those of us who think the sun glinting off an aircraft's wings is one of the most beautiful sights on earth, Spartan is the perfect place to go to the next level.
Now, on to the actual maintenance program. My original class was 31 people. We were told that out of our group, perhaps only 13 would graduate, and less than that would actually go on to get their license. They were right--only 11 of us graduated, and only 5 of us currently work as licensed aircraft mechanics. There are those who will tell you that Spartan's poor teaching, facilities, or equipment is to blame. However, the simple truth is this: Spartan's student body has a large number of 18- to 22-year-olds who have no idea what it means to be an adult.
I watched students fail out of class after class, refusing to study or take any responsibility for their own education, and yet blame instructors or the school for their failures. I saw students repeatedly miss class and then be furious and surprised that the school made them make up their time or repeat the course--even though that policy is FAA-mandated and drilled into our heads from day one. I saw students cheat, do drugs, abuse alcohol, and sleep during class. These same students are somehow baffled at why they don't get handed a $30/hour job at graduation--if they make it that far. The funny thing is, Spartan DOES help you get a job. I spent a good portion of my time during my last two terms going to interviews with the biggest names in aviation--interviews that Spartan set up for me. I had several job offers to choose from.
Spartan is not always easy. But the instructors will stay after to work with you, they'll do what they can to ensure that you truly understand the material. The small class size means there really is no excuse for you to not understand it. For those who actually care enough to do the work involved, Spartan is the absolute best choice for someone looking for an aviation maintenance career. As for me? I go to work every day on one of the most advanced aircraft ever built, playing with systems most of those other drop-outs never even heard of, and technologies that will make aviation history. I make far more than $30 an hour, and I'm currently one of less than 50 people in the world who are qualified to do what I do--and that's as a female in a traditionally male-dominated career field. I owe every last bit of that to Spartan. In short--if you're looking for fraternities, extra-curricular clubs and a popularity contest, Spartan's the wrong place to go...you WILL fail. If you want to be one of the best in the world at what you do out of a love for the aircraft and a desire to excel, then step up and do it. Adults will be glad they did. | Education Quality: A+, University Resource Use: C+ |  | | |
| | Nov 10 2009 | 2nd Year Female --
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| Quite Bright |
Spartan gave me the fill in the blanks information that enabled my to transition from military aviation to civil aviation. They gave me the real world applications I needed to make the transition. The instructors went out of their way to ensure that those students who went the extra mile were given the opportunity to succeed.
My 18 months at Spartan were very rewarding and highly recommend it to anyone who has a passion for aviation. Mike Proud Alumnist of Spartan College of Aeronautics and Technology. | Starting Job: A&P Mechanic, Preparedness: B+, Reputation: B+ |  | |
| | Nov 06 2009 | Alumnus Male --
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| Quite Bright |
After I retired from 20 yrs of aircraft maintenance in the USAF and 1 yr as a defense contractor I came to Spartan to get my A&P license, though being 20yr of prior experience I elected not to test out of parts for a short cut to my A&P. I met 4 alumni during my recruitment period so I had an idea on what to expect when I got to Spartan. Not one negative statement was made by the alumni that I happen to work with as a defense contractor.
Yes the facilities are old, the school is in buildings from its early days, but they are well maintained by a dedicated staff tasked with facility upkeep. The new campus is still a couple years away but is in the works.
The instructors are very knowledgeable and well versed in aviation maintenance, as they come from different parts of the industry.
Students that attend the school will get back out of the school exactly what they put forth in the classes. Most negative press is created by those few students who lacked the discipline to advance their own knowledge and were expecting their hand held and everything done for them. Those same students put forth a lack of effort, but managed to put forth the effort to put forth negative reviews (if only they would have put that effort into trying to succeed they would have had a better experience).
As for student activities, we had a student council that pu on several events and tried to organize several others, but due to a few students who complained the loudest (they only wanted the student council to do away with student uniforms and the attendence rules) the student council wasn't able to put on large functions. I work in the regional airline field, and guess what I wear a uniform to work everyday and if I don't come to work on time, I'll be looking for a new job.... Spartan gets people ready for that.
Job placement went well and replacement after the downturn in corporate avaition was excellent also. The staff went to work for each and every student to get a job placement. The major complaint I heard is that the school didn't get a student a $30/hr job right out of school.... Well guess what people, they aren't there when you are just starting out, unless you manage to get a defense contractor position overseas. You have to wok your way up the latter, just like any other job.
As an alumnist I spend alot of time going back to the campus as I live 3 hrs away and take the time to talk with instructors and students alike and share my experiences and what I have learned. I used to d open houses on my time and take students and parents around the A&P campus and answer any questions they might have, and you know what all those people who said they were "lied" to weren't the ones asking questions.
The aircraft are old, I will be flat out honest about that.... But they are in the same condition as aircraft I have seen in the industry, so you get a feel for how planes really are in teh real world. Yes new aircraft would be nice, but you don't learn anything with them. Plus those same complainers are the first to throw a frisby is to one as hard as they can or write in the paint of cut the interior "to leave their mark" on the campus, so even if you had brand new shinny aircraft they wouldn't be that way long.
I learned alot and was pround to have gotten honor graduate honors upon graduation. Which took alot of effort for someone who was a barely average student in high school 21 years earlier.
I highly recomment attending Spartan'a AMT program "IF" you are serious about aviation and have a passion to see aircraft fly. Its quite the satisfaction to watch a plane take to teh sky right after you have had it all apart and made repairs. It takes a passion to treat it as a Career not just a job. Mike Pround Alumnist of Spartan College of Aeronautics and Technology. | Education Quality: A+, Surrounding City: C |  | | |
| | Nov 05 2009 | 1st Year Male --
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