Liberty University - Graduate (MS/PhD) Ratings|
|Total Grad Surveys||55|
|Avg years at University||2.5|
|Research Quality||B+ (7.8)|
|Research Availability||A- (8.1)|
|Research Funding||B+ (7.9)|
|Graduate Politics||B+ (7.7)|
|Not Errand Runners||A- (8.7)|
|Degree Completion||A- (8.7)|
|Alternative pay [ta/gsi]||B (7.2)|
|Sufficient Pay||B+ (7.7)|
|Education Quality||A- (8.1)|
|Faculty Accessibility||B+ (8.1)|
|Useful Research||A- (8.4)|
|"Individual" treatment||B+ (7.7)|
|Campus Beauty||A- (8.4)|
|Campus Maintenance||A- (8.6)|
|University Spending||A- (8.2)|
|Scholastic Success||B+ (7.6)|
|Surrounding City||B+ (7.9)|
|Social Life/ Environment||B+ (7.6)|
Liberty has a religious mission that finds itself in every course. I don't mind that and find it both refreshing and far more palatable than some of the insane distractions that many other universities are offering (must there be a protest for everything?). I caution prospects to remember that Liberty is very up-front about 'Building Champions for Christ'. Do your research before you jump into any school (or project or life choice, since we're on the subject) so you will know what to expect. Own your decisions.
The courses were mostly directly applicable to my work and I found them useful, but working full-time, I found the load quite high (that means I was pushed out of being the Dad or Husband for the duration).As to the administration aspects, being application, gates, etc. I found it somewhat confusing. Solution: I read everything. Every guide, FAQ and web page pertinent to my degree program ? I knew it so well that I could have been the go-to subject matter expert. None of us are children.
I am paying for a education and I wanted a Christian based value degree. Not happening here. I am moving on to another school and tution is twice the cost but I believe it is time to move on.
Living on a hall with a bunch of football players, I ended up being bullied into writing their papers. Yes, all of these other schools that have been getting in trouble for academic fraud is true.
After completing 3 1/2 years, I ended up befriending this kid whose father and brother-in-law worked at the school. With 3 semesters left before graduation, I was forcibly withdrawn by the VP of Student Affairs because I would not name this aforementioned kid for engaging in illegal activity. When I met with this VP after I withdrew, all he had to say was that I "didn't do my job," which would have been to 'turn in' this kid. However, he had pretty much threatened my life. I had already been strangled by his other brother-in-law, not the one that was working at the school. Note, this BIL was a football player, too.
After completing my suspension, this kid had told me that he changed his lifestyle. So, I decided to let him move in with me. Hindsight, this is the one mistake in life that I could take back. He ended up not paying rent or any other bills. I finally got tired of trying to reason with him, and reached out to his father. His father's only reply was that I did not know how to budget. I tried to meet with him several other times, but he always blamed me for his son's inability to take care of his responsibilities. This was my first semester as a re-enrolled student.
Finally, this kid moved out after leaving me with several thousands of dollars worth of debt that was not "technically" mine, not to mention all of the things that he stole. I had to drop out of school because I was so far in debt by living with him. I was even working 3 jobs during this time.
The Student Conduct office reached out to me and said that they would like to hear what happened. I went to their office to make an appointment, after attempting to do so for the previous two weeks without any avail. The assistant direct of the Student Conduct office rushed me into her office and I told her my story without mentioning any names. Then, she said to go to another office and speak with them.
After I went to the second office, I received a court summons two days later. Apparently I was disorderly in my conduct. However, when I was in court representing myself, I found out that it was the brother-in-law of my ex-roommate that had filed the report. I requested my school records and was told that I was going to have to get a subpoena. Say, what? I called FERPA and then they finally released a copy of my records.
In my records, this assistant director had made up things in my records. When I went to meet with her, I had a friend accompany me in case something like this would happen. She had wrote in them that I introduced myself as this person's father (which was not true at at all) and that she "didn't know me well enough" to take my situation seriously.
When at court, the judge dismissed the case because he saw that I did not do anything wrong. There were 7 people there to "testify" against me. It was a joke. The lawyer was scolded by the judge because apparently she thought that it was some criminal court and wanted to have them come up to the stand to testify. The "detective" also changed the date of the incident during the opening of their complaint. In other words, they attempted to manufacture the situation to fit the complaint report. Then, this "detective" called me to come to sign paperwork to ban me from campus. Really? No one cares about truth anymore? And this was all after this ex-roommate had checked himself into rehab. Not to mention that I was the first victim of his destruction. He not only stole from me, but his girlfriend and his own father. But, I was the one with the problems? Esoteric agendas and nepotism at its finest.
They also violated my FERPA rights because someone affiliated with the school had opened my records and told this man's father lies. In other words, this kid had been dealing illegal things to people on campus and I took the fall because he threatened my life. I would have filed a complaint with FERPA, but I worked for a renowned professor of the school and didn't want to get him involved.
Lastly, in order to get my diploma, 9 months after I graduated, I had to call this lady 3 times and write at least three emails. It was not until I carbon copied the person that had directed me to her that I received a response.
You think Jerry?s still alive? I wouldn't be surprised if Farwell were still alive. They say, he was in EXTREME debt when he "passed", the thing is he is a twin (believe his brother's name is Gene) twins share the same DNA. The school is now debt free due to Jerry's ?death?. Hmmm wouldn?t be surprised if he is laughing all the way to the bank. Nobody ever mentions his twin and the people at the school "drink the Kool-Aid". Honestly we may never know. I?m over it!
While working full time in Law Enforcement I have been able to complete an AS, BS and Masters (MBA)degree at Liberty. I found the courses to be very well designed, the professors open and approachable (and most importantly willing to work with "working students" on deadlines!) Academically it was challenging, but I can honestly say I never had a bad course.
As a Navy vet I found the school to be very Military Friendly! Tuition is deeply discounted for military members.
Lastly, but most importantly, Liberty instills Christian Values in its graduates. The school is affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention and was founded by the late Jerry Falwell. The schools motto is "Training Champions for Christ" and every course is Christ centered. This was a breath of fresh air after attending NC State and East Carolina University in my younger days.
The decision to go back to school when you are over 40 is tough, but Liberty made the transition near painless. I want tell you that you want have to work hard to complete a degree there - you will. But as with anything that is worthwhile, the hard work is worth it.
If your 35 or older, motivated, a self starter and not afraid of work this is a GREAT SCHOOL! Yes - I'm a raving fan!
In my humble opinion, Liberty University is absolutely the Best of the Best in universities worldwide! From day one of inquiry to post graduation from graduate school, Liberty University?s Christian worldview, outstanding curriculums, and the entire staff have thoroughly nurtured my mind and soul. I walked away on fire for the Lord, with a genuine desire to make a difference in the world for Him!
The LU curriculums both (undergrad and graduate) are loaded with all the essential tools needed to succeed both academically and professionally. I will forever be grateful for the staff that makes up LU and LUO, who time and again, proved to be extremely humble, respectable, attentive, personable, caring, considerate, compassionate, encouraging, and knowledgeable. In stark contrast to the secular universities I attended, I witnessed LU/LUO staff members master a high degree of integrity that remained intact and above reproach in every situation. My professors made a very positive and lasting impact on my life. I would encourage anyone looking for a top university today to seriously consider Liberty University. My only regret is that I did not discover LU any earlier than I did.
I am starting their MBA next, not because I expect to make big money with it, but because the foundational education will help me in my current career field. Seeing as the full program (books and all) will run me around 12k, I can easily make that up, which will still make this program a net gain. YMMV
One thing I really liked was the emphasis on Biblical integration. EVERY class had some Biblical tie in.
Financial aid helped me. The registration process was easy.
In the end, I graduated with a perfect 4.0.My son starts at LU in a few weeks on campus. Our experience has been good.
The biggest downside to the current program is that students outside the Lynchburg, VA area are responsible for finding their own internship placements, as well as satisfying state requirements. It is a very confusing process and without somewhat of individualized help, it makes it a bit overwhelming for those that do not already have a job in the schools. I chose LU because it allowed me to live where I wanted and the cost was a lot less compared to other graduate programs. I hear from my friends in regular programs (not online) and there is more support available in terms of satisfying state requirements and finding internship placements.
I cannot believe how unprofessional Liberty seems to be. Assignment instructions through Blackboard are difficult to understand, the textbook for one of my classes (e-book for $100) was absolutely worthless and rarely matched up with the homework assignments, grades returned for written assignments are scored in a contradictory manner each week, professors are downright rude and will not answer simple questions. Regarding the e-book noted above, I asked the prof for other resources and she replied that wikipedia was a great resource. I've never heard of anybody in higher education recommending a student consult wiki!If you're looking for a place to be frustrated with assignments, deal with unprofessional professors, and be generally befuddled by the process of courses, Liberty is the place to be.
I would characterize Liberty University as a vocational graduate school. The reason I say this is because virtually all classes require students to produce some sort of research project, which can be geared toward a personal pursuit. I took advantage of this aspect and researched every aspect of a personal business endeavor from financing and marketing to human resources and policy. The program allowed me to tailor the program to my needs, which is what I wanted. In this way it was money well spent.
That said, Liberty University is not a research-oriented school like some others here have mentioned. It isn't Harvard. Instead of providing opportunities abroad to study the influence of IFRS on Micronesian textile manufacturers, you will probably study the influence of IFRS on American tax systems by studying 20 peer-reviewed articles. You will likely not conduct any original research here, but you will definitely review lots of literature that is relevant to your particular interests/goals.
As I said before, I have attended since 2010. One thing I can say is that the coursework has become significantly more difficult recently. The school is working toward its ACBSP accreditation, and the grading has become much less lenient. You will have to participate in Peregrine Academic surveys, which are part of the accreditation process, and these surveys show you your individual placement compared to students at all ACBSP accredited universities. I usually placed between 75% and 85%, which I think is pretty good. My GPA at LU is a 3.75.
Some classes are very easy and some are very difficult. I believe that some of this depends on the student and some of it is probably due to the limitations of the online environment. For example, accounting and corporate finance were very difficult to learn outside of a classroom environment, but that is not necessarily the school's fault. These are just complicate subjects. Some other courses were pretty easy, but most were about average.
One person commented that the quality of discussion posts at Liberty is poor. This is true...sometimes. If there are 20 students in a class, about 5 will probably be abysmal, 10 will be average, and 5 will be pretty good. After wasting my time responding to poorly written assignments, I found it was better to find the good students. I also believe that the quality of writing has drastically improved with the ACBSP accreditation.
I opted for a master's degree to meet the baseline requirement for my CPA certification. I have been studying for the exam, and I have to admit that although most of the material is familiar from my studies at LU, I am definitely not ready to take the exam yet. I don't know if this is normal, but then again, I earned an MBA in accounting and not a master's in accounting.
I would recommend Liberty for a person who can use the degree to study for an existing profession or endeavor. I used the degree to write many aspects of a business plan and fulfill the requirements for a professional certification. It met my needs perfectly. I have a job waiting for me on graduation in corporate auditing for which I am thankful. I am also able to laugh at the price of some other universities, which can cost anywhere from $60k to $150k. After the military discount, my MBA will cost me $11,250 not counting prerequisites. The GI Bill paid for this and more.
Regarding earlier complaints Liberty University teaches a worldview and does not teach evidence-based education, that statement is not entirely accurate. Granted, Liberty University is the world's largest Christian university. Most assignments will require students to evaluate a subject from a Christian worldview. I generally see as an added task. For example, a recent assignment required students to write an essay examining an AICPA principle from: an accounting perspective, a deontological perspective, a utilitarian perspective, and a Christian perspective. Even though I am not mega-Christian like some other students here, I appreciate this aspect of the assignments. I have used it to help define my own set of values as they relate to various aspects of business culture by learning or incorporating Biblical principles. I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. If you do not like evaluating yourself or questioning your values, or if you are just plain anti-Christian, Liberty University may not be the best place for you.
On a side note, I believe that many of those who do not finish degrees at Liberty were unable to adapt to the workload. The school does not require a GMAT, so I am pretty sure that some people get in over their head by not taking the school seriously. If you plan to take 12 credits a semester, be prepared to write an average of 10-20 pages of good content every week, read and absorb 3-6 chapters of graduate-level text, and possibly complete several hours of other assignments. You will also probably become much faster at doing these tasks than you thought possible. Anyway, I hope this helps you. Good luck and God bless!
Attending Liberty University has been a breath of fresh air compaired to the secular university's I've attended (Valencia College, and Seminole College) which are poisioned with liberal bias and dictatorship-style teaching/advising/business. At Liberty University the staff are all outstanding servant leaders and have always gone above and beyond to assist me in every area of academic achievement. Liberty is also a very military friendly school. I would highly recommend you choose Liberty University!! You will be glad you did! The professors are all top notch with execellent credentials, and are willing to serve the student (imagine that?!) The course content is designed for you to learn your material well (imagine that?) You will never find this individualized,caring, supportive relationship with any secular school out there. Liberty University is WONDERFUL in every way!
In the online program I spent approximately 20 hours a week on course work and received straight A's. Some tests required essay only reponses and critical thinking was required, however, many tests/quizzes where not necessarily challenging, but more time intensive. The professors where responsive and supportive. However, I found, way too often, the desire to negatively grade my peers writing during projects and online blackboard assignments. Definitely a bit frightening - can't imagine some (not all) of these students in this program teaching my children. It gave me great pause that these were my peers - and made me question the vaule of my degree graduating with High Distinction (4.0).Overall, I got what I needed to be successful as a teacher at a very reasonable price. I am happy with my gained knowledge and can see it pay off in the classroom. I believe one can make this program work for their own success as a qualified and knowledgeable teacher - stay positive and get what you need from the program.
The University focuses entirely too much on their "worldview". I deliberately had to answer questions on exams to their point of view even if it wasn't the scientifically correct answer. A graduate education should be about finding your own worldview, not about having one shoved down your throat.
The professors did not answer my questions adequately and seemed annoyed with my questions. They also graded work based on their biases, not on the quality of your work.
I spent 27 hrs. per week on coursework and I feel that my efforts were not reflected in my grades or in the information I have gained.
Financial Aid - I had no problems with the financial aid department at all.
General Studies - My studies at LUO did not feel like graduate studies at all. At best, the courses reviewed information from my undergraduate program. The professors are very light graders, and I was able to procure many 100% on assignments without effort. The courses required minimal critical thinking, and the work felt juvenile at times. The school appears to have very low expectations for its students.
My Study Focus (Human Services-Business) - My focus at Liberty was in Human Services, with a focus in Business. I looked forward to my courses, as I plan to move into nonprofit management in the future. The classes had little to do with the integration of the two fields. The Business classes were part of the school's MBA program, and the topic of human services or nonprofits was not once discussed. Stocks, bonds, and investments were studied, instead. These issues have no place in human services, and go against the very foundation they are built upon. The Human Service classes were very basic and required no effort.Evaluation - I would not recommend LUO to anyone who is looking to better themselves through education. If they are simply looking to add letters or a title to their name, LUO is a cheap and easy way to do so. There is no challenge in the coursework and very little to learn.
The administration over financial aid does not give a flip for the students. There is a lot of politics here. You file a grievance and the system is one-sided. You file a complaint against the way the grievance was handled and a jerk administrator sends you harassing emails trying to pressure you into allowing him to handle the complaint because he knows the department chair you are complaining about and apparently is her friend. You file a complaint about possible harassment about a professor and you are mocked by the advisors. I will never support a University that has such corrupt administration and that are so self-righteous and over baring that they think they are better than you. I was actually told that I had to file a grievance in order to express my opinion. Unbelievable!
My worst trouble came from the amount of true/false exams taken at the graduate level. I felt that I was not encouraged to think at all,just memorize other people's opinions.
The other trouble came from the caliber of the other students. They were not willing to debate or think outside the box, instead they seemed to look for the answers outside the box rather than applying logic.
My final concern came in the last term (that just ended). Since I took the courses on-line, I responded only to Teaching Assistants. Never once did I hear a comment from an instructor. I don't think that is acceptable at a grad level coursework. The instructor should be available to debate and help you develop your self, not fit into a defined mold.
If you are OK with a fundamental theology, LU, is likely OK for you. If you, like me, want to challenge opinions and break them apart so you understand why you have certain beliefs, LU is probably not the right grad program for you.PS I transferred out and none of my credits transferred. They are not telling the truth if they tell you your credits are good anywhere.
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