Pensacola Christian College
Pensacola Christian College - Graduate (MS/PhD) Ratings|
|Total Grad Surveys||57|
|Avg years at University||3.8|
|Research Quality||B- (6.3)|
|Research Availability||B (7.0)|
|Research Funding||C+ (5.3)|
|Graduate Politics||B- (6.2)|
|Errand Runners||B- (6.5)|
|Degree Completion||B (7.0)|
|Alternative pay [ta/gsi]||B (7.0)|
|Sufficient Pay||B- (6.2)|
|Education Quality||B+ (7.4)|
|Faculty Accessibility||B+ (7.7)|
|Useful Research||B (7.3)|
|"Individual" treatment||B- (6.3)|
|Campus Beauty||A (9.6)|
|Campus Maintenance||A- (8.8)|
|University Resource/spending||B (7.0)|
|Surrounding City||B (6.7)|
|Social Life/Environment||C+ (5.6)|
Yes, there will be things about the college that you won't necessarily agree with, but that will be the case with ANY institution you attend. The thing you should focus on is your reason for attending PCC. If you are there to learn, to grow, and to serve God, you will have a great experience. If you're ONLY there because of the low cost or because your parents made you attend a Christian school, you will most likely be miserable.
PCC is a Christian school. That doesn't mean they're perfect, but they DO have high standards both academically and morally. The high standards in personal conduct are where some students seem to have issues. But if you arrive with a desire to respect your God-given authority, there won't be many problems.
I was so wrong.
For starters, PCC was fairly easy to get into. I had been on campus for maybe 2 days and realized I might have made a mistake.
First of all, I'm mixed, and kind of dark skinned and was treated horribly. I remember on one occasion I compared answers with a white student, and 90% of our answers were the same. She got a B+ and I got a D-.
I was not allowed to talk to a male friend of mine on the phone, my visits to my family were restricted, and any "non christian" music was forcefully removed from my ipod. That included songs by The Eagles, Led Zepelin, Van Halen, etc.
If I was caught listening to said "non christian" music on the radio, I recieved demerits.
My computer was constantly checked and I had to give my passwords for multiple sites.
If I tried to leave campus, I was assigned at least 3 "buddies" to accompany me and make sure I didn't get into "trouble". Even off campus, I wasn't allowed to do my hair the way I wanted, or wear any clothes I liked.
This school didn't seem to value me as a person. I was treated like a dog who had rolled in something disgusting, and was talked about, lied to, and rumours were made about me.
I didn't even get a good education to make up for it. With the daily church services, and being made to constantly walk across campus to change, or being called to the Dean of Women's office, I rarely had time to study.
They barge into your room unannounced and go through your stuff, giving you demerits and throwing away your stuff when they see fit. A shirt I had gotten for christmas that my little sister had made for me was torn to shreds right before my eyes and thrown into the bin.
I really hate this school, and would never send my children there. I have already told all my family and friends about the school and warned them. They all said they wouldn't go there.To anyone who reads this before going to school, take this as advice: make sure you're white, easily brainwashed, skinny, and obedient. Or you'll be expelled for no reason whatsoever.
I received a phenomenal education at PCC. All of my teachers made themselves available to me and took a personal interest in me. I felt very comfortable talking to them. The course work was relevant and practical. While PCC's Biblical philosophy of education pervades each class, students are encouraged to research various ideas and support their beliefs. One is not "condemned" for expressing controversial views as long as it is done in an appropriate manner and with some backing. The comraderie among the graduate students was superb. Everyone pulled together to encourage one another.
Also, the chapels each week provided encouragement and spiritual strength to keep pressing on and turn to Jesus when life gets tough. --Rebecca Linzey
I wish that I had gone to a local college--I am sure that I would have graduated at the top of my class instead of struggling at PCC (the education is "good" but extremely challenging, and I was a high school valedictorian).One of the other major problems with PCC is that they concentrate on RULES and outward appearance while missing the fact that true Christianity should reach the heart. I am nowhere near as conservative a person as when I was a student there (I am, in fact, a single mom). I think that like many students I felt so chained down so when I got out of the college I felt like I could run free. Don't make the mistake that I did--consider carefully where you go to school and what you do with your life afterward. Visit colleges, ask alot of questions and decided for yourself where you should go. Best wishes.
In a nutshell, the adminsitration at PCC, while origianlly desiring to educate with high standards has lost site of that primary focus. Now the primary focus is first and foremost, how they look, and how they can keep the most control over students and the school's place in Christian history. Here are a few examples.
My education on the undergrad level was decent, but watered down on the grad level. As a graduate assistant, I worked like slave labor 35 official hours each week, but what they don't tell you is that you are required to work in other facets or you are released. Then there are the summer work requirements. For all of that, you get tuition paid (hardly worth it); share a very small dorm room with another graduate assistant, and get $500 dollars a MONTH to live on. In the midst of this, they waste money on useless things that as Christians should lack priority.
If you dare ask a question about policy, your salvation is questioned, and you may face expulsion. We were treated like children, as if we could not make decisions for ourselves - bad enough for the undergrads, but for us!
The turnover in the college is remarkable. This past year, the VP being trained to take ovr as President left, as well as another VP, as well as the Campus Pastor, among hundreds of others. I have personally talked with these three among others, and they could no longer support PCC, and are angered by its downhill spiral. And I haven't even mentioned no accreditation among other things.
To summarize, what had so much potential is quickly being destroyed from the inside out because the administration vehemently disregards the students true needs in a self-promoting attenpt to exert unbelievable control in a fashion which many have reasonably and justifiably compared to the Nazi regime - (PCC ultimately standing for Pensacola Concentration Camp). My prayers go out to those still there, to the Hortons and others hoping they will answer God's call to seek him once again, and to those who are considering attending. To you all, I offer this advice: PLEASE check and doublecheck everything first. Look at objective reference material such as pccboard.com and pensacolachristiancollege.com. Be very cautious as attending PCC could jeapordize your entire life!
I was a graduate student in the music program at PCC and found that the campus was beautiful but fairly stifling. The rules for our summer school student body were not even close to the what the undergrads experienced, but they were still quite inflexible and bordered on ridiculous. But, I did not buck the system; I was fairly content in my music studies.
In terms of the music training--what really matters--I have a mixed opinion. The conducting classes I took were excellent, and I developed tremendously as a musician from conducting all these Handel and Brahms pieces, which had to be memorized and took hours to perfect. Good feedback from the eminently qualified teacher (an Eastman grad.) and my kind colleagues helped me a lot. When I went back to my school, I was a different teacher and choir director. Everyone raved about my new skills with a baton. Vocal training was also very strong, and I was able to improve the technique of my choirs, though my singing is not my strength . . . so the practical training was excellent. The facilities were exceptionally adequate.
The other classes, however, were all lecture-oriented and slow, passive, and dry. Emphasis was on memorizing and regurgitating with little conceptual mastery and significance being taught. I wish we had some more creative, interactive, or research-oriented instruction, which I don't think is too much to ask for a graduate program. The worship program on Sundays was massive, but largely out of touch. I wished for more bread from the Word . . . not frothy men's opinions about superficial issues, such as the preservation of the King James Version.For graduate music studies I would recommend PCC if you are in a conservative, fundamental church or school and want to develop your skills. For serious research and academic training, and a more open environment, you may want to look elsewhere. I think it was good for me in small doses (summer school) as an older student, but many of my students who have gone to PCC have not finished because they were dissatisfied with academics or the student climate.
As for the rules -- suck it up, folks! Did I hate the rules? You bet! Do I follow them now with lights out at 10, Vespers, white glove -- well, I do like to clean...but come on, we're adults now. Move on from all the negativity that you hold on to you bitter grads and alums!
People ask me if I would recommend PCC. My answer is always this -- PCC is a great place but you HAVE TO KNOW WHAT you're going in to. If you haven't a clue about the rules, then you're going to immediately hate it and want to go home. Been there! It took me three and a half years to realize of school to come to the point where the rules were a secondary vision of PCC.
This school is not for everyone, but those who choose should do so willingly and well-advised. You can get a good education and you can have a positive experience. I have many lasting friendships from college. In fact, one of my teachers was in my wedding!Hate PCC? Get a life. Love PCC? Get a life. Some where in the middle? Enjoy life.
I do not agree with some people on this web site that thinks everyone's negative opinion is the result of a bad attitude. That kind of thought only demonstrates the rationale behind many of the negative posts. Be informed, read the posts, use your mind, be an adult and learn.
And finally, contrary to one posting, you are not given a list of rules prior to going to the college (unless you go to an underground web site that has the handbook posted.) Yes, you are given a general list of standards, expectations and guidelines, but I in no way expected what I found when I arrived.
For undergraduate students, I think PCC’s heart is in the right place, but you will miss the maturation process. I will hire someone from PCC, but only after a long discussion concerning their growth and maturity, and for the record, we have not hired anyone from PCC. Young people are not perfect. There is room for error, thank God. PCC however, does not give much room for error. Trying to build a catch-all error proof legal system is not the answer.
If God leads you to PCC then go! If you do not get the leading, I would encourage open thinking and look at your long term goals, not just getting the degree at a low cost.
One year was enough for me. I transferred to another seminary and was satisfied with my theological education from that point forward.
I have also taught for several years using ABeka materials and have attended the summer teachers' enrichment conferences. PCC's curriculum is woefully below par (replicating printing, fact, and philosophical errors through multiple revisions) and their educational philosophy for high schoolers -- that high schoolers are to be constantly drilled on facts, without attempting to ensure understanding -- seems to be replicated within the grad school.
My brother-in-law currently attends, and tries to put a brave face on it when I ask him about it. But he seems to realize that all the promises of low tuition and the will of God are simply argumentative drapes for a school that really isn't very academically sophisticated.I wouldn't go back. I sort of doubt that you should. Mark me unimpressed....
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